Parmenides by Plato

(3 User reviews)   2022
By Abil Kile Posted on Dec 30, 2025
In Category - History
Plato, 428? BCE-348? BCE Plato, 428? BCE-348? BCE
English
Ever have one of those late-night conversations that starts with 'What even IS reality?' and leaves your brain feeling like scrambled eggs? That's basically Plato's 'Parmenides.' Forget the easy answers of his other dialogues. Here, a young Socrates gets absolutely schooled by the ancient philosopher Parmenides and his sharp student, Zeno. They pick apart Socrates's own theory of 'Forms'—the idea that perfect versions of things exist somewhere—with relentless, brain-bending logic. It's less about finding the answer and more about the dizzying, sometimes frustrating, thrill of the question itself. If you like philosophy that feels like a mental workout, this is your book.
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by this slight touch Plato verifies the previous description of him. After a little persuasion he is induced to favour the Clazomenians, who come from a distance, with a rehearsal. Respecting the visit of Zeno and Parmenides to Athens, we may observe--first, that such a visit is consistent with dates, and may possibly have occurred; secondly, that Plato is very likely to have invented the meeting ('You, Socrates, can easily invent Egyptian tales or anything else,' Phaedrus); thirdly, that no reliance can be placed on the circumstance as determining the date of Parmenides and Zeno; fourthly, that the same occasion appears to be referred to by Plato in two other places (Theaet., Soph.). Many interpreters have regarded the Parmenides as a 'reductio ad absurdum' of the Eleatic philosophy. But would Plato have been likely to place this in the mouth of the great Parmenides himself, who appeared to him, in Homeric language, to be 'venerable and awful,' and to have a 'glorious depth of mind'? (Theaet.). It may be admitted that he has ascribed to an Eleatic stranger in the Sophist opinions which went beyond the doctrines of the Eleatics. But the Eleatic stranger expressly criticises the doctrines in which he had been brought up; he admits that he is going to 'lay hands on his father Parmenides.' Nothing of this kind is said of Zeno and Parmenides. How then, without a word of explanation, could Plato assign to them the refutation of their own tenets? The conclusion at which we must arrive is that the Parmenides is not a refutation of the Eleatic philosophy. Nor would such an explanation afford any satisfactory connexion of the first and second parts of the dialogue. And it is quite inconsistent with Plato's own relation to the Eleatics. For of all the pre-Socratic philosophers, he speaks of them with the greatest respect. But he could hardly have passed upon them a more unmeaning slight than to ascribe to their great master tenets the reverse of those which he actually held. Two preliminary remarks may be made. First, that whatever latitude we may allow to Plato in bringing together by a 'tour de force,' as in the Phaedrus, dissimilar themes, yet he always in some way seeks to find a connexion for them. Many threads join together in one the love and dialectic of the Phaedrus. We cannot conceive that the great artist would place in juxtaposition two absolutely divided and incoherent subjects. And hence we are led to make a second remark: viz. that no explanation of the Parmenides can be satisfactory which does not indicate the connexion of the first and second parts. To suppose that Plato would first go out of his way to make Parmenides attack the Platonic Ideas, and then proceed to a similar but more fatal assault on his own doctrine of Being, appears to be the height of absurdity. Perhaps there is no passage in Plato showing greater metaphysical power than that in which he assails his own theory of Ideas. The arguments are nearly, if not quite, those of Aristotle; they are the objections which naturally occur to a modern student of philosophy. Many persons will be surprised to find Plato criticizing the very conceptions which have been supposed in after ages to be peculiarly characteristic of him. How can he have placed himself so completely without them? How can he have ever persisted in them after seeing the fatal objections which might be urged against them? The consideration of this difficulty has led a recent critic (Ueberweg), who in general accepts the authorised canon of...

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So, 'Parmenides' isn't your typical story with a plot. Think of it as a philosophical showdown. The young, confident Socrates meets the legendary thinker Parmenides and his follower Zeno. Socrates presents his big idea: that for every thing we see (a beautiful person, a tall tree), there's a perfect, eternal 'Form' of Beauty or Tallness that exists somewhere beyond our world. It's a neat theory. But Parmenides, with the patience of a grandmaster, proceeds to ask question after question that pokes holes in it. What is the relationship between the Form and the real thing? Can a Form be split or shared? The dialogue becomes a series of logical puzzles that tie Socrates—and the reader—into knots.

Why You Should Read It

This book is fascinating because it shows Plato critiquing his own most famous idea. It's like watching a brilliant inventor stress-test their favorite invention to the breaking point. You get to see philosophy in action, raw and unfiltered. There's no tidy conclusion handed to you. Instead, you're left with the messy, challenging work of thinking for yourself. The characters are great, too—Socrates' youthful certainty slowly wilting under Parmenides' gentle but devastating logic is weirdly relatable.

Final Verdict

This is not the book to start with if you're new to Plato (try 'The Symposium' or 'The Republic' first). But if you've dipped a toe into philosophy and are ready to swim in the deep end, it's incredibly rewarding. It's perfect for anyone who loves a good intellectual puzzle, enjoys seeing foundational ideas challenged, or just wants to experience one of the most honest and brain-stretching conversations ever written down.



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Kimberly Thomas
2 weeks ago

Simply put, the content flows smoothly from one chapter to the next. I couldn't put it down.

Lisa Miller
6 months ago

Not bad at all.

Joshua Lee
1 year ago

If you enjoy this genre, the narrative structure is incredibly compelling. Don't hesitate to start reading.

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